Refreshingly candid perspectives from free-thinking 60-yr old besties
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We’re Leslie & Angella. Best friends for 45 yrs & counting.
We met at the prestigious Brooklyn Technical High School in 1977.
Two 14 yr old undercover nerds.
Our friendship was special from the start.
But we could never have imagined all that this bond would get us through
and
how our differences would expand our world view.
Welcome to our podcast.
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Intellect . Humor . Love . Motivation
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Episodes
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Ep. 01
Our Bestie Beginnings: But Can She Sew?
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Ep. 02
Pivoting to Bigger & Better
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Ep. 03
Mental Health Morning
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Ep. 04
You Gotta Have Faith - Part 1
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![Lavel Davis Jr., Devin Chandler and D'Sean Perry - the three student athletes killed in a mass murder in Charlottesville]()
Ep. 05
Contemplations on Another Tragedy
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Ep. 06
Gratitude - We Get To Do This
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Ep. 07
When You Know, You Just Know: Transition from Corporate to Entrepreneurship
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Ep. 08
Some Questions Change Everything
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![Black young man and mother in hospital beds after kidney transplant and donation]()
Ep. 09
Kidney Swap
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Ep. 10
Coach Kim Coles is in the Building
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S2 Ep. 01
Season 2 is in the Building
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S2 Ep. 02
Take That Sabbatical; Inspiration from an Introvert
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S2 Ep. 03
The Nitty Gritty on Hair Loss
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S2 Ep. 04
Our Deep Dive on Hair Stuff
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S2 Ep. 05
Retiring Without All Ducks in a Row
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S2 Ep. 06
An Anthropologist’s Search for Home Abroad
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S2 Ep. 07
Busy Besties Catch-up
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S2 Ep. 08
Embrace Healthier Nutritional Choices
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S2 Ep.09
Stereotypes & Prejudices from a Single Story
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S2 Bonus Episode
Car Talk
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S2 Bonus Episode
Accountability Partner
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S2 Bonus Episode
Best of Season 2
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S3 Ep. 1
Rethinking Love & Marriage
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S3 Ep.02
Accountability: Confrontation & Confessions
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S3 Ep.03
F*ck Mr. Reiner
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S3 Ep.04
Ageism & Othering in the Spotlight
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S3 Ep.05
Back to White Affirmative Action in American Universities
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S3 Ep.06
Black Legacies Matter: The Ordinary & Extraordinary Stories
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S3 Ep.07
Allow Us To Reintroduce Ourselves
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S3 Ep.08
An Intimate Exploration of Jamaican Ancestry
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S3 Ep.09
More Stories on Caribbean Ancestry
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S3 Bonus Episode
Back Together Thrifting & Thriving
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S3 Bonus Episode
Supporting Black-Owned Businesses from Jump goes here
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S4 Ep. 1
Satin Bonnets & Respectability Politics
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S4 Ep. 2
Beholding Beauty: Stretch Marks, Wrinkles and All
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S4 Ep. 3
Grieving Andy
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S4 Ep. 4
The Meaning of Bestieship
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S4 Ep. 5
Meet Muralist Delia Miller
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S4 Ep. 6
Evening Wind Down
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S4 Ep. 7
Clitoris 101
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S4 Ep. 8
A Life Pivot to Combat Oral Health Inequities One Mouth at a Time
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S4 Ep. 9
Too Many Options
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S4 Ep. 10
Why Do We Hide Our Light?
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Bonus Episode
It’s Our Anniversary
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S5 Ep. 1
Perspectives on Local Elections & Bloodshed in Israel
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S5 Ep.2
Reimagining Black Hair Culture
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S5 Ep. 3
From the Besties Vault
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S5 Ep. 4
Leaving A Financial Legacy Part 1
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S5 Ep. 5
Leaving A Financial Legacy Part 2
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S5 Ep. 6
Hit & Run
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S5 Ep.7
Black Boudoir
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S5 Ep.8
Ho Ho Humbug
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S5, Ep.9
Not Everyone’s Cup of Tea
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S6 Ep.1
Copay Blues
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S6 Ep.2
Are You Trippin?
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S6 Ep.3
We Ain’t Mad at Katt Williams
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S6 Ep.4
Daily Writing for the Soul
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S6 Ep.5
You're Meant to Move with DK Ciccone
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S6 Ep.6
Don't Wait for Your Travel Break with Stephanie Perry-Part 1
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S6 Ep. 7
Fani Willis and That Black Excellence Thing
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S6 Ep.8
Don't Wait to Retire to Rest with Stephanie Perry-Part 2
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S6 Ep.9
Why Don’t We Know More About The Legacies of Pauli Murray & Bayard Rustin?
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S7 Ep.1
Radical Self Care for Women Who Change the Planet with Jennifer Campbell
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S7 Ep.2
Done With the Suburbs: Rethinking Community as an Empty Nester
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S7 Ep.3
Who's to Blame When Friendships Go Wrong
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S7 Ep.4
What To Do Between 60 and Death
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S7 EP.5
Getting Out of the ‘Stuff’ Phase of Life
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S7 Ep.6
To Bucket List or Not to Bucket List
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S7 Ep.7
Live Long & Live Well
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S7 Ep.8
What You Never Knew You Needed: A Death Doula
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S7 Ep.9
Embracing Your Evolving Identity Through Hair
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S8 Ep.1
Toxic Job Liberation For Black Women with Dr. Kimani Norrington-Sands
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S8 Ep.2
A Journey to Self-Acceptance in the Differently Abled Community
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S8 Ep.3
Celebrating Family Milestones and the Gift of Life Through Organ Donation
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S8 Ep.4
It’s Reunion Planning Time
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S8 Ep.5
Scouting Out Costa Rica
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S8 Ep.6
Debate: Do people generally do their best?
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S8 Ep.7
Happy Pride: Attracted to Love
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S8 Ep.8
Organizing and Decluttering: A Prescription for a More Joyful Life with Gayle L. Walker
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S8 Ep.9
Preserving Black History in Raleigh with Carmen Wimberley Cauthen
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S9 Ep.1
Analyzing Christian Values in a Troubled World
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S9, Ep.2
Inching Closer to Choosing Life Abroad
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S9, Ep.3
A Time of Truth Telling with NC Poet Laureate Jaki Shelton Green
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S9, Ep.4
Black Excellence Explored: NC Poet Laureate Jaki Shelton Green's Literary Journey
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S9, Ep.5
Are Your Quirks Pointing You to Your Joy?
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S9, Ep.6
Art, Appropriation or Ridicule: Did Raygun Break Breakdancing?
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S9, Ep. 7
Why I Transitioned from Corporate at 54
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S9, Ep.8
I’m Fallen in Love with My Heavier Body
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S9, Ep.9
Get Ready and Get Registered: This Election Won’t Be Regular Degular
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S9, Ep.10
What's Your Legacy?
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S10, Ep.1
Y’all Ain’t Black Enough to Talk About Colorism!
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S10, Ep.2
We’re Too Old for This Shit: The Inquisitive Older Woman’s Guide to Joy
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S10, Ep.3
Listener Comments on our Colorism Conversation
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S10, Ep.4
New Beginnings: Not All Rainbows & Unicorns So Find Anchors
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S10, Ep. 5
Dissecting Interviews: Coleman Hughes v. Ta-Nehisi Coates
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S10, Ep.6
Dating Cities Before Moving Abroad
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S10, Ep.7
Smh! If you can’t beat her, call her a tramp?!?
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S10, Ep.8
Live: The Day After 2024 US Presidential Election
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S10, Ep.9
Girl, You’re Doing Way Too Much!
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S10, Ep.10
America: Should we stay or go?
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S11, Ep.1
The Emotional Toll of Emptying Your Storage Unit
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S11, Ep.2
Can Afrominimalism be the answer to living with less?
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S11, Ep.3
Angie Swipes Right to Date a City: LA
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S11, Ep.4
Why Malcolm Gladwell’s apology for stop & frisk isn't enough
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S11, Ep.5
Why & How to Financially Plan your Escape from a Toxic Job
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S11, Ep.6
The LA House & Pet Sitting Update: Is It Worth It?
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S11, Ep.7
Why I Took a Break from a Job I Love
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S11, Ep.8
The Surprising Benefits of Starting a Podcast or YouTube channel in Your 60s
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S11, Ep.9
Downsizing with Heart and Humor
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S12, Ep.1
Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde is a Balm
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S12, Ep.2
The Full Body Impact of Menopause (and why you should care at any age)
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S12, Ep 3
Pop the Balloon: Do New Ways of Dating Work for Older Women?
